Which software supports multiple independent front displays?

[collinong]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Actually it looks like the Multi-Screen module in ProPresenter will do exactly what you want.

Take a look here and see if this will fit your need.

http://www.renewedvision.com/propres...n-improvements

that page is actually what made me think that Pro Presenter could do what I need and I designed a dual projector system around it, but apparently what that module does is change templates on the same content, not allow different content on different screens.

[Esoteric]

Oh, you mean different slides for each projector? Hmmmm... I will have to ask my Renewed Visions rep.

It allows different content. For example you can have video on one screen and slides with graphics on another and DVD on another. Not sure about 2 different slide/graphic presentations though.

I can't think of a reason I would ever want to do that.

That would be VERY confusing to look at.

[Esoteric]

Just got an email today about a ProPresenter Master Control that can remotely control multiple client systems, triggering their slides and backgrounds.

[[Admin] osborn4]

Would the two slides change at the same time? e.g. change the point slide and scripture slide at the same time?

What I'm picturing is a double-wide slide show, running to a dual-head to go to the two projectors. If you just use a fade transition, you could keep the left half of the slide the same and change the second half, and to the congregation, the point screen would stay the same, while the scripture screen changed.

Of course, then you'd have to do your songs the same way, because your computer and presentation software would be looking at the two screens as one double-wide display.

Unless, of course, you switch the 2nd projector to have the same input and the 1st projector for worship and format your worship screens to only use the left half of the screen.

[collinong]

thanks for checking into this. i've also been inquiring about this on the renewed visions forum and their support people confirm that different slides can't be on different screens at the same time. Slides being defined as a particular category of displayable content that includes text and bible verses. Since their rendering engine puts all "slides" on one layer of the render, the slide layer must be the same for all screens. Media such as pictures or video can be on a different screen while a slide is being shown on another.

This sort of makes sense but on the other hand, they can render a stage view which is totally different from any of the other screens so why not multiple different views?

I can't think of a reason I would ever want to do that.

That would be VERY confusing to look at.

I gave a very reasonable example in my original post: Sermon outline on the left and Bible verses on the right. So if the Sermon outline is:
A) Point 1
- Verse 1, Verse 2, Verse 3
B) Point 2
- Verse 4, Verse 5, Verse 6
C) Point 3
- Verse 7, Verse 8, Verse 9

With a single screen, as the pastor is preaching, this is what the single screen would show in sequence:
Point 1
Verse 1
Point 1
Verse 2
Point 1
Verse 3
Point 2
Verse 4
Point 2
Verse 5
Point 2
Verse 7
Point 3
Verse 7
Point 3
Verse 8
Point 3
Verse 9

This is what gets confusing after a while!

What I want to show is: (each line is a new pair of slides, advancing down)

Left       Right
Point 1   Verse 1
Point 1   Verse 2
Point 1   Verse 3
Point 2   Verse 4
Point 2   Verse 5
Point 2   Verse 6
Point 3   Verse 7
Point 3   Verse 8
Point 3   Verse 9

This would be easier to follow in my mind because it lets the congregation keep track of which point is being talked about while at the same time seeing the verse that supports it. One of the things I learned in (business) presentation class is that when the audience can see the roadmap, their perception of the length of the presentation is shortened, because they can see where you are in the overall flow and how much progress you are making. This is the same concept.

There are some other scenarios that will work with the things that PP can currently do, like showing outline or Bible on the left, while showing a map on the right, etc. This is possible since a map is an image, not a "slide." So this would be another way to work around the limitation: make all your Bible slides, render them out as JPEGs and then put them on the other screen. This would work but creates more work and potentially confusion for the operators who may not be as savvy about all the in-and-outs of how and why things work like this. It also prevents the operator from following with verses when the pastor goes off the planned path with suddenly inspired verses.

[Esoteric]

I am sorry, I totally missed it because it is so foreign to what I have ever done that it didn't process with me. Totally my fault. That is a very interesting concept. I have never seen that style used in worship before. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Just have never seen it before. What all my clients do is (each [] indicates a slide)...

[Point 1]

[Point 1
Text]

[Point 1
More text]

[Point 2]

[Point 2
Text]

[Point 2
More Text]

[Point 3]

[Point 3
Text]

[Point 3
More Text]

Yes, because text, bible, etc appear on the same layer you an only use that layer like that. But you can split the other layers (video, background, etc).

Sounds like if that is something you have to have then SSP might be the software for you.

[petereit]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Just got an email today about a ProPresenter Master Control that can remotely control multiple client systems, triggering their slides and backgrounds.

We would have been all over that, but I'm told that PP5 doesn't support edge blending.

[cmchamp]

Wish there was also something similar for educational purposes. Would sell like gangbusters if the learning curve wasn't too high.

[[Admin] osborn4]

There's nothing that says any of these worship packages couldn't be used for general presentations. Just don't install any of the Bibles.

[Esoteric]

Originally Posted by petereit

We would have been all over that, but I'm told that PP5 doesn't support edge blending.

Really? I was told the Edge Blending Modules would be available for PP5.

[petereit]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Really? I was told the Edge Blending Modules would be available for PP5.

Hmmm...I think you're right. The Edge Blending module page specifically says it works with 4 and 5. My media director told me it wouldn't work with 5. I'm following up with him to find out why he thinks that.

[petereit]

Confirmed. My media director looked at that page when PP5 was first released and it said "PP4 ONLY". My guess was that the page simply hadn't been updated.

So, Hallelujah! We can upgrade and take advantage of that master/slave control goodness! I'm so excited!!