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We are finally moving from cassettes to CDs for the audio recording of our services.
I know we have other threads on CD/DVD duplication, but I'd like to see where people are now.
We are currently audio only, but we'd like to go DVD and it seems like the cost difference between a CD duplicator and a CD/DVD duplicator isn't that much.
We will only need to make a dozen or so CDs a week.
We have recording options, we have duplicating options and we have labelling options.
Recording: We have a brand new Yamaha LS9. This means we could record direct to a thumb drive, but we would need to manage the record mix manually. I believe the installation company has set up the DSP to make a record mix from the house mix and ambient mikes. But we need a place to send that. Should we look for a digital recorder or a direct to CD recorder?
Duplicating: Seems to me that if we record direct to CD that takes out the step of having to master a CD before we duplicate. Or is are the duplicators that duplicate off of the hard drive worth the cost?
Labelling: Is lightscribe still too expensive and/or slow? How about a dedicated CD printer? Nobody on are team is real up on the idea of sticking labels on CDs.
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Get the DVD duplicator. The speed is significantly faster when duplicating CD's than if you used a CD duplicator.
As for labeling, Blank LightScribe discs are significantly more expensive than ink-jet printable discs. The Epson R260 will print on CD's and DVD's (about one every 30-45 seconds depending on the amount of text) and it only costs about $100-$150.. which is significantly cheaper than getting a Bravo or some other professional grade dedicated CD printer. The problem that we have had with the sticky labels is that they sometimes peel off and get stuck in the CD players. We had a few complaints from the congregation in that regard so we no longer use the stick-on labels. If your team hates them, this is just another reason to hate them even more so.
We record straight to a CD recorder and right now it is the best way for us until we go digital and then maybe we will use the thumb drive as a backup.
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There are a lot of companies (discmakers.com is near me) that will sell you preprinted blanks (they also have good prices on duplicators - got my 1:1 DVD from them).
And there is always Tiger Direct.
My personal opinion is that direct to CD is chancey, any problems and you lost everything. I prefer to go to a drive and then to the CD. But that's just me.
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I have been in the Video and Duplication industries for over 5 years now and I think all of the posts have some good points. If you plan to go to DVD in the not so distant future than the obvious answer is to go with the DVD duplication tower. The price is negligible and it would allow you to future proof your purchase. If you are only making a dozen or so copies each week and never plan to have that number go up you could get a 1:5 tower and do 2 or 3 burns (each takes only a couple minutes) to achieve your desired number of copies. I agree with the post that the lightscribe is not a viable means to label. It is a monochrome label and will significantly slow down the process while adding great cost. The Epson printer he speaks of would work fine to print the labels in the week leading up to your service and would also allow you to use the printer as an everyday office appliance for other printing needs. The "sticky" labels are not a good idea for the reasons mentioned and would also tarnish the overall appearance of your final disc. There are also all-in-one duplicators that would allow you to take the thumb drive you spoke of and without needing a computer attached, make multiple disc copies. Just put the thumb drive in and push "copy" and it will copy the data to each drive of the tower. Another kind of innovative idea that came to mind reading the initial post would be to use a USB duplicator. If the individuals that are taking copies of your service are the same people ever week or are willing to return the media this could be a great idea. You could take that thumb drive, and duplicate it to other thumb drives. The cost of these thumb drives are very low at this point and an initial investment into a dozen or so would mean no reoccurring cost. Even though CDs are relatively low priced you still need to buy over 500 a year to support the number of copies you are making weekly. If you used thumb drives, these same drives could be written to every week. These USB duplicators are just like the Tower duplicators in the fact they are stand alone units. You would not even need to have a computer attached, just need to have it plugged into the wall power outlet. I have not reached the required number of post to include links to lead you to examples of the units I am speaking of, but if you go to the spartan-duplicator website you will be able to find examples of everything I mentioned. Just need to add the www in the front of spartan-duplicator and the .com and the end.
If grayscale quality is working for you, lightscribe is a great choice. Lightscribe CD-R is selling for $99 per 300pcs, not expansive. LightScribe is still slow, but you can pre-label them before service. A lightscribe duplicator can do lightscribe labeling and cd dvd duplication in the same machine. Lets say you have a 5 targets lightscribe cd dvd duplicator, you can label 5 lightscribe discs in about 15 mins, and duplicate 5 CDs in about 3 mins. The price for 5 targets lightscribe cd dvd duplicator cost $530 shipped.
USB duplicator is another great option and USB duplicator costs about $700
Last edited by skstarkiller; Tuesday, July 21st, 2009 at 06:31 PM.