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Old Friday, June 11th, 2010, 11:31 PM
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Still looking for these features:

>The ability to have different backgrounds for verse/chorus/bridge WITHOUT converting the song into a slide show (its annoying/buggy and we lose the cute letters at the top of the screen that our operators use and love [V,C1,C2,V2,B,b]).

>MORE integration with the Matrox triple head: I want the flexibility to throw lyrics Left/Right or Center for different setups.

>The ability to control backgrounds from another computer (our lyrics computer is back stage in the control room, I want [at the lighting position in house] to be able to change the backgrounds with the lights on the fly.

>a simple "right click to add a simple fade transition" thing.... instead of going through 3 layers of right click menus to get to "Fade, full"... sometimes I accidentally press the wrong transition and I get the heart page flip thing.... Maybe throw in the preferences section "turn off all useless for worship services transitions" check box, that will leave me with just a fade transition.

>still can't use the built in timer with powerpoint in the same show and yes, we have the latest update.... Who would of thought that powerpoint would crash a windows machine?

>I want the display properties to not make the "fastest PC" in the church take 10 seconds to pull up.

>The global display properties is kind of useless.... transitions don't stick, font properties don't stick, formatting doesn't stick if the song has certain display properties saved...then what is the point of a global display properties section?

>I would be happy with the ability to be able to turn certain features that I don't use off, if it would make the software faster and a little less clunkier to look at.
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Old Saturday, June 12th, 2010, 09:46 AM
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Sounds like you want ProPresenter on a Mac with backgrounds controlled by ProVideoPlayer.
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Old Saturday, June 12th, 2010, 09:51 AM
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Yup. Although I think Pro Presenter for Windows might do it for you too.

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Old Saturday, June 12th, 2010, 02:06 PM
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If you turn on the Program Data Inspector, you can see all the slides, or slide titles in a slide show in the Inspector Panel.

We have our default transition set to simple fade, so I only need to add a transition when I want to change it to something more exciting.

Crashing problems should be reported to Tech Support.

It does not take 10 seconds for the display properties to come up on any of the machines I use SSP on. You might let Tech Support take a look.

Global display properties work for me. Again, if you have something that's consistently not working properly, I would let Tech Support take a look.

But for the multi screen stuff you are looking for, I'd say you are looking for ProPresenter, et al at this point.
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Old Saturday, June 12th, 2010, 02:14 PM
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Yup. Although I think Pro Presenter for Windows might do it for you too.
I downloaded their beta to my Windows machine at work on Wednesday. Not quite ready for prime-time. But I didn't think the actual release of ProPresenter4 was ready for prime-time when the released it. It's just now getting to where I can call it fully stable.
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Old Saturday, June 12th, 2010, 04:44 PM
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>I want the display properties to not make the "fastest PC" in the church take 10 seconds to pull up.
What virus protection software are you running? I've seen this on some computers too, and my *theory* is that it is related to the virus protection.

I haven't had any problems with global display properties not working. Remember that if any properties are set in the item itself, these override the global display properties.

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>I would be happy with the ability to be able to turn certain features that I don't use off, if it would make the software faster and a little less clunkier to look at.
You can close just about any panel. I don't think this disables the feature, but it does remove it from view.

I do agree that there should be a quicker way to specify the time for a fade other then the default fade time!
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Old Monday, June 14th, 2010, 08:52 AM
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Good Day Sir,

Thank you for the information regarding SSP. When you have a moment, please give our support team a call to evaluate your system and resolve any issue. With SSP you have unlimited dial-in support for all computers at home or the church. We also have dial-in phone support on Saturday and Sunday morning. The phone number is 1-877-458-6367 or you can email support@gofishmedia.net. We will dial-in via the Internet and assist you.

We truly appreciate your recommendation on features. The features you recommended would be great. If you visit our user forum
www.ssplash.com you can add a feature to the wish list for future development. The most popular requests are voted on by our users and created by the developers. SSP is the only program in the industry which releases all new features every few months via a voting system. Ofcourse, with our user-driven voting system you do not have to wait a few years for new features.

Click Here and you can see the new edition feature list. I hope the information helps and have a blessed day!
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Old Monday, June 14th, 2010, 07:58 PM
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I believe MediaShout V4 will also do what you want.
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Old Thursday, June 17th, 2010, 08:33 AM
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Sounds like you want ProPresenter on a Mac with backgrounds controlled by ProVideoPlayer.

We tried Pro Presenter, and loved it..... had a great time.... their tech support was amazing, I was on the phone on a Friday afternoon for 20 minutes while tech support talked me through some things....

My selling point to the people that make money/equipment decisions was "not only does it do really great graphics stuff, but we can play HD video and DVD's right to our switcher" (eliminating a second mac that just does playback to the switcher and a separate DVD player....

In theory we were going to patch the L/R outputs of the matrox directly to our Octo-Views via DVI and the center output would go to our switcher and the switcher (through an aux) would feed the center octo-view.

We ran into a wall trying to interface our scalers and our Panasonic switcher at the same time....

The scalers wanted to see a screen resolution like 1024x768 while the switcher wanted 1080x720.... The matrox could only output one matching output resolution across all three outputs.

We tinkered with lots of different resolutions/settings but could not in the end find a resolution that would make the scalers and the switcher happy...

So there went my whole idea of an "all in one" presentation machine.

We need 2 macs to make things happen: one capture mac, the other a playback mac... both macs need to be able to handle HD pro res.

We have some older macs, but they won't run pro presenter 4....

I can't justify getting a site license and another mac just because I want prettier graphics while we do have a working SSP machine and license.

We didn't try the Windows beta yet... that maybe the compromise.
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Old Thursday, June 17th, 2010, 08:44 AM
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Good Day Sir,

We truly appreciate your recommendation on features. The features you recommended would be great. If you visit our user forum
www.ssplash.com you can add a feature to the wish list for future development. The most popular requests are voted on by our users and created by the developers. SSP is the only program in the industry which releases all new features every few months via a voting system. Ofcourse, with our user-driven voting system you do not have to wait a few years for new features.

Click Here and you can see the new edition feature list. I hope the information helps and have a blessed day!
I've searched the SSP forum and saw a few times were folks were wanting background changes on verse/chorus, etc.... I know I can use the background improv feature, we did this once... created a folder for each song with three or so backgrounds re-named verse, chorus, etc... it worked but took A LOT of time to make happen... also, one of my volunteers loved using the background improv while other volunteers got nervous because it was TOO MANY things to click and move around.

The other option is converting it to a SSP slide show..... this does work but the downside is that the slide show maker is scary.... now, right before we did the pro presenter demo, our IT guys updated to the newest update and the slide show maker is a lot faster and less buggy which is cool.... it is still not as fast as a simple drag and drop system that pro presenter offers.

The probem still lies in that when we play a SSP slide show (as opposed to a song) we lose the V,V2,C1,C2,B,T,b icons at the top of the screen that our volunteers depend on.... the icons are really close together and you can do a quick mouse-over to see what you are about to click on, via a pop up thing....

I don't think I have a membership over at the SSP forums... it will be on my to do list.... maybe the developers can lurk over here and see what people are talking about from an end users point of view.
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Old Thursday, June 17th, 2010, 09:01 AM
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If you turn on the Program Data Inspector, you can see all the slides, or slide titles in a slide show in the Inspector Panel.

We have our default transition set to simple fade, so I only need to add a transition when I want to change it to something more exciting.

But for the multi screen stuff you are looking for, I'd say you are looking for ProPresenter, et al at this point.
Our default is set to fade, but still you add 3 songs, a video, and 4 annoncement jpegs to the program list.... random items will fade other items will just do a cut transition....

I can right click on an item and set the transition to fade (after looking through a list of 99 "useless for worship" transitions)... but half the time that will not work...
I have to bring up the display properties, transition, fade, full, and click the "fixed background" checkbox, then it works.... Why not just make the default for the "fixed background" to always be checked?
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Old Thursday, June 17th, 2010, 09:04 AM
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Good Day Sir,

The most popular requests are voted on by our users and created by the developers. SSP is the only program in the industry which releases all new features every few months via a voting system. Ofcourse, with our user-driven voting system you do not have to wait a few years for new features.

Click Here and you can see the new edition feature list. I hope the information helps and have a blessed day!
If pro presenter can write a code with some add on module that makes more cool multi screen stuff happen... I would theorize that SSP can divert their software programmimg/coding energy from making more "text glow/scroll/blink" effects and divert it to making more multi-screen capabilities....

I don't know if in your voting system all the red states wanted more transitions and the blue states wanted multi-screen stuff and the red states won....

I would theorize that you would gain/not lose customers to the competition that is offering actual multi-screen support.

One of pro presenters main selling points is multi screen support.... not 99 different transitions and advanced text animation effects.
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