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Old Tuesday, September 6th, 2011, 01:19 PM
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Song formating across different playlists

We're looking at launching a new service in January and in conjunction with it I was contemplating using a different projection software than we already use (SSP). ProPresenter has been highly recommended to me, and if I like it, I'll move our other services over to it. So, I've been playing with it over the last few days and ran into a problem that MIGHT be a deal breaker....

With this new service, we'll have 4 different "styles" of worship (family, blended, traditional, contemporary). Many of the songs we use cross into different services, but each service has a slightly different "style" of projection. For example, we us a general "bland" background for our traditional service, but the contemporary might have a moving background.

The problem I am running across in ProPresenter is that if I were to vertically align text to center in the contemporary playlist, the song is moved to align center in the family service playlist, but I need to to be aligned to the top of the screen. The alignment seems to change the master file. Same goes for adding or removing verses of songs.

Is there ANY way to have the same song formatted differently across multiple playlists?
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Old Tuesday, September 6th, 2011, 03:26 PM
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It should be a snap to just apply a different template. Our projectionist does that on the fly with Bible verses depending on if we're slide-only (verse centered vertically and horizontally) or if we're IMAG with verses in lower thirds. She says it's just a couple of clicks.
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Old Tuesday, September 6th, 2011, 04:31 PM
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Just for comparison, in SSP, you'd set up the playlist (SSPROG) for one service, then insert a Display Properties item at the beginning of the SSPROG and edit the verse order for the next service and save as a different ssprog.

Lather, rinse, repeat for all 4 services.
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Old Wednesday, September 7th, 2011, 07:01 AM
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Just for comparison, in SSP, you'd set up the playlist (SSPROG) for one service, then insert a Display Properties item at the beginning of the SSPROG and edit the verse order for the next service and save as a different ssprog.

Lather, rinse, repeat for all 4 services.
I've been a SSP user for years and love it. I just wanted to try something new that had come recommended to me and see how it goes. In the end, I think SSP is going to win. Not being able to have different verse orders for different playlists is more of a deal breaker than template formatting.

The other, less desirable, option is to use two different programs since the primary service I would us it for is in a different room on our campus. I love the "Mac-ness" of PP4.
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Old Wednesday, September 7th, 2011, 11:00 AM
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Having used both softwares i have to say i still slightly prefer SSP. Currently the church i'm at uses PP on Macs and growing number of Windows Computers. PP is currently investing alot of money into the Windows side of things to play catch up with the demograph they didn't think existed. I'm going to hang out for a while longer to see how things play out.

As far as your concern about formatting. Petereit is dead on.

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Old Thursday, September 8th, 2011, 12:26 PM
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As Mark suggested, templates would be the way to go for formatting, But for the issue of different leaders singing in different orders, I'm not sure there's a way to make the slides stay in a different order for different playlists. Though what I do is, in the notes section for each song, I type the worship leader's name and the order they sing the song. So at the top of each song, it shows something like this:

John: 1 2.3.4 5 3.6 6 3...3 HUNTER: 1 2.3 3.4 5 4 5 3.6 6 3...3

Each number refers to a slide. I hope this makes sense.

Something else worth looking into is having separate libraries. You can access those settings in the general settings pane. I have never really used this feature so I'm not sure how it works. Might be worth a shot though.

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Old Thursday, September 8th, 2011, 02:21 PM
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It also works well in ProPresenter to assign keyboard shortcuts to slides in your song. So if the worship leader decides to repeat the chorus, just hit C. Back to the verse? Just hit V.
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