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Old Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008, 01:21 PM
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Song Lyric Presentation Challenge

I've come across the most hated song by all church projectionists.... You Are Holy (Prince of Peace)... I actually love it as a song but as a congregational piece, its a doozy.

My challenge:

How to format the lyrics in ProPresenter?
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Old Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008, 03:02 PM
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I think the best way is using the iWorship video.

The music is actually a pretty good recording.
Timing it with a live band might be a little complicated.
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Old Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008, 03:37 PM
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We split the M/W parts in to separate slides like this

W: You are Lord of Lords
You are King of Kings
You are mighty God
Lord of everything

M: I will sing to And worship
The King who is worthy
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W: You're Emmanuel
You're the great "I AM"
You're the Prince of Peace
Who is the Lamb

M: I will love and adore Him
And I will bow down before Him
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etc.

This breaks my rule of thumb of 4 - 6 lines per screen. But it works pretty well.

Let me know if you need more detail or clarification.

I'm not sure how I'd do this in a lower third.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 09:53 AM
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We do this song quite often and have never had any complaints about not being able to follow along. I put the ladies part in yellow and the men's in white. I do split the verse but I made sure I split it for both parts in the same place in the song. There are still several lines per slide but I have it centered and we use 12' screens so it's still legible in the back of the church. I have no idea how you would do lower thirds and I really don't understand how you would put the separate parts on separate slides since they sing them together. When I get home I can power up the MAC and look at it so I can be more specific.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 10:12 AM
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I really don't understand how you would put the separate parts on separate slides since they sing them together.
That's bad phraseology on my part.

I meant, we split the chorus onto several slides (5, actually) and on each slide is the women's and men's parts for a couple of lines, as laid out in my previous part.

Thanks for letting me clarify.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 10:17 AM
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I put the men's part left justified at the bottom, and the women's part right justified at the top. The parts that both sing are centered vertically and horizontally. See attached example.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Okay Joel. That is funny. I appreciate you for the many times you have helped me. ......Gene, That looks great and is a really great solution but I don't know if that's possible on ProPresenter.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 11:55 AM
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I'm not sure how I'd do this in a lower third.
Maybe you can do it the way they did in some of the old Bugs Bunny/Sing along cartoons where they said, "Follow the bouncing ball" whenever they did a musical piece.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 07:50 PM
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Gene, I really like that concept.

It would be cumbersome for making any changes to the background, etc down the road, but you could just make each slide it's own image with the words and everything and put this together in your graphics software. Not ideal, but it would give you full control of an unusual layout.

We tend to do the split top and bottom approach. It helps to tell your operator to just follow along with one part, usually the top and then they don't get lost.
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Old Thursday, December 4th, 2008, 10:37 PM
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I do the split-top-and-bottom thing too. What might work in a lower third is one set of lines at a time (the women's line and the men's line that's sung at the same time as that women's line (since they're two-to-one)).
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Old Thursday, May 14th, 2009, 08:20 PM
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Gene, That looks great and is a really great solution but I don't know if that's possible on ProPresenter.
You can do this in ProPresenter but you will need to custom edit each slide. You can't use the default formatting. At least you only have to set it up once. Just never, never, never accidentally change it to the default formatting. Oh, and did I say to never accidentally force the default formatting.
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Old Monday, April 5th, 2010, 08:05 PM
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PP4 Lyric formatting

While you are all on the subject of Lyrics in Pro Presenter. I am moving from MediaShout 3.5 to PP4. It is a challenge mostly on the lyric side.
Suggestion from anyone that has made the move would be appreciated. My struggle is how to break down the lyrics and put them an order that is easy for the operator. for instance v1, c, v1, c, v2 etc. I do not see a way to easily do this in PP4 like I was in MS. Suggestions would be great!
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