Forked Thread: Whaddaya think about motion backgrounds?

[voyager529]

Forked from: Whaddaya think about motion backgrounds?

Originally Posted by sherrybob

First, does Powerpoint 2007 allow for moving backgrounds? We are using 2003 and basically satisfied for what we do with it, however an elder has suggested moving backgrounds. I'm not real gung-ho about it because I've found that my mind gets 'busy' as my eye tries to take it all in - hardly what you want during worship. I much prefer subtle but would really like to hear your experience with it. Also, are free motion backgrounds easy to come by?

Our church has FINALLY started using them regularly on Sunday mornings, after 2 years worth of being in the youth group test bed. The problem is that our collection is...lacking. Not in quantity - we've got a shelf full of jumpbacks. Not in quality - again, they're jumpbacks. The issue we face is more relevance. I'm guilty of using the "holy blob of color" as much as the next guy that gets stuck picking 'em last minute. Ideally we'd all like to have a motion backdrop that perfectly compliments the message the song is conveying. At which point our library shrinks from about 16 volumes of Jumpbacks, 3 editor's toolkits, 2 volumes of Midnight Oil, and a set from Worship Digital Media (approximately 350 total backdrops, maybe more) to about 40 that can fit a song with another 50-60 usable 'holy blobs of color'. Part of this is my own doing. Part of this situation is due to the fact that we took part in a few of Digital juice's Costco-grade deals, namely the 10 HD jumpbacks for the price of 1 special they ran last year. The way I saw it, if we used three volumes and left the other 7 to rot, we still got a good deal out of it. So, the All Music, Simply Useful, Subtle Impact, and High Impact volumes get used alot. the "corporate, industrial, time, and money" ones...not so much. (silly sarcasm)I'm SURE there are people who get right into worship with worship lyrics overlaid on floating dollar signs or skeletons from the medical one, but they go to a church down the block (/sarcasm) Midnight Oil is GREAT at delivering quality message media (and i'm not just saying that to suck up since Len and Jason are prolly gonna read this), but i find that MO works most effectively when the service centers around it. It'd be difficult, if not impossible, to get my pastor to start doing that. I don't blame him either as he needs to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit. The second thing is that as much as I LOVE DJ products, they have a degree of similarity between them. while each backdrop and each volume are decisively different in feel, there's a DJ 'look' I can spot a mile away. So I ask you, my fellow backdroppers, as one looking to round out the collection, who else do you guys get 'em from? Actionbacks? Motionloops? any experience with these guys? any other suggestions as to where I can look for more church worship oriented backdrops? Joey

[[Admin] osborn4]

You could hire Rev_65 to be full time on your staff making relevant video backgrounds.

No, wait. He's already take.

One of the things I love about SongShow Plus is it's ability to add some transparency to a motion background and put a still behind it. This allows us to pick a relevant still image and put some holy blobs of color or whatever over it, making it much more visually interesting. The motion background can either be a loop, or one of the SSP build in visualizations (basically computer generated holy blobs of color, or clouds or whatever).

You can pick one graphic and put different videos over it for each song. Or you could pick a nice motion background and switch up the still behind it. Either way, it gives some change between songs, while maintaining some continuity.

That's not much help to you, as is. But given enough time, you could probably make some of your own loops like this using premier and your DJ loops with relevant elements added. And over time you would be developing your own collection and hopefully not have to create as many loops every week.

Just an idea.

[voyager529]

Originally Posted by osborn4

You could hire Rev_65 to be full time on your staff making relevant video backgrounds.

No, wait. He's already take.

One of the things I love about SongShow Plus is it's ability to add some transparency to a motion background and put a still behind it. This allows us to pick a relevant still image and put some holy blobs of color or whatever over it, making it much more visually interesting. The motion background can either be a loop, or one of the SSP build in visualizations (basically computer generated holy blobs of color, or clouds or whatever).

You can pick one graphic and put different videos over it for each song. Or you could pick a nice motion background and switch up the still behind it. Either way, it gives some change between songs, while maintaining some continuity.

That's not much help to you, as is. But given enough time, you could probably make some of your own loops like this using premier and your DJ loops with relevant elements added. And over time you would be developing your own collection and hopefully not have to create as many loops every week.

Just an idea.

Actually, that makes ALOT of sense. add a couple motion design elements and voila! RELEVANT holy blobs of color Joey

[Gracetech]

Originally Posted by osborn4

One of the things I love about SongShow Plus is it's ability to add some transparency to a motion background and put a still behind it. This allows us to pick a relevant still image and put some holy blobs of color or whatever over it, making it much more visually interesting. The motion background can either be a loop, or one of the SSP build in visualizations (basically computer generated holy blobs of color, or clouds or whatever).

You can pick one graphic and put different videos over it for each song. Or you could pick a nice motion background and switch up the still behind it. Either way, it gives some change between songs, while maintaining some continuity.

As i was reading his post i was thinking the same thing and then i read yours and thought "he read my mind". I just started training the worship leaders on this and they love it.

Also it helps to have worship centered backgrounds and i have found some over at Imagevine.com that work great and also various ones from all over the place.

crt

[Gene]

Originally Posted by voyager529

Actually, that makes ALOT of sense. add a couple motion design elements and voila! RELEVANT holy blobs of color Joey

I just did this for a memorial video for my father-in-law. They moved around a lot and lived some interesting places (he was Swedish, moved to the U.S. where he met my mother-in-law, moved back to Sweden where the kids were born, then back to the U.S., and they lived in Belgium and Iran, too)

Anyways, I took a travel loop (plane flying, line moving on a map, etc.) from one of the DJ jumpback collections, and since it was the early 70's when much of this was happening with the kids, I took a picture of a globe showing Europe and the Middle East, overlaid it with the jumpback, and had all that showing through parts of one of rev_65's retro backgrounds, with a 70's-looking font listing some of the places they lived.

It all sounds very complex (and would definitely be too busy for a worship background), but it was a perfect interlude in the memorial video between two parts (meeting and marrying my mother-in-law and showign the kids as toddlers, then leading into the section with the kids growing up in the U.S., Europe and Iran. The music pepped up for the section with the kids growing up.) I did it with ProShow Gold and Photoshop (to save a translucent PNG file of the static parts), so with Premier or the like you could easily do something similar to integrate relevant symbols with some of the DJ stuff, or even more generic holy blobs.