green Pentecost flames?

[Gene]

My original Pentecost service set was in red, for the day of Pentecost. With red for flames / tongues of fire, it makes for a good color scheme:


Today was Trinity Sunday, for which the color is white. I generally do gold in place of white because our vestments and paraments are white with gold, and gold makes a better background for projection. It worked fairly well because gold still works as a color for flames:


Next Sunday is still in the season of Pentecost, but the color shifts to green (according to the ELCA website, "to indicate our growth in faith as we follow the teachings and ministry of Christ.") So on to the questions:
- should I keep the triquetra (Celtic knot thingy) that I added on Trinity Sunday, or remove it for the rest of Pentecost?
- I included vines and the RLC logo with leaves to represent the life that the Spirit gives and new life that Jesus brings. Are those elements enough for the same image to work in green, or should I reduce the flames, or add something else? Or are the flames abstract enough in the current image that it doesn't matter?

[Sysmom]

Gene ... I don't think there's anything wrong with losing the triquetra this time. I've done images both ways before, added a new one each week to keep, and other times just making a new one for that week. I've landed on the theory that too much just confuses the image this year, and don't keep building up the image each week.

And I think your flames are abstract enough.

deb

[[Admin] danroth]

this season has a few different names:

For instance, a Sunday could be

Third Sunday "in Pentecost" (just like weeks after Easter are "in Easter" or "in Eastertide")
OR
Third Sunday "after Pentecost"
OR
Third Sunday "in Common Time"

As you said, the color green is used to reflect Christian growth.

As a matter of taste, it just seems to me that the green isn't working with the image. It's not because it's flames, but just because it doesn't seem to work. (How's that for technical/artistic clarity?)

[hussra]

In the Church of England these are all Sundays "after Trinity", rather than "after Pentecost". (We used to count Sundays "after Pentecost" back in the days of the Alternative Service Book, but nowadays that is so 1980s.) We also revert to green from the Monday after Pentecost, so Trinity Sunday is green.

I like the background. Is there maybe a little too much going on? A green set for Trinity Sunday itself would be useful. If there was less going on (without your own church logo?), perhaps the triquetra could be a little smaller and set further to the left?

Many, many thanks for sharing all your liturgical backgrounds; I think I have the complete set of the ones you have uploaded to the MXC.

Best wishes,

Richard

[Gene]

Attached is a new version taking into account various ideas. It's more viney-looking, no triquetra, and the green is a bit darker, so I think it works better. Thoughts?

I think it (or whatever I end up with) would probably work OK for any of the 'green' seasons.

[Sysmom]

Gene, have you thought of a subtle embossing on the viney things, or probably just one one or two of them, to give it more visual depth on that side of the image?

I did this on an image last year, and loved the effect - just picked a couple, left the rest flat. Without seeing it, I don't know if it would compete with the focus on the dove(s) tho.

deb

[Gene]

That's a good idea. It looks pretty good -- I'll post another version in a while, incorporating any other suggestions I get.

[Gene]

Here's what I ended up with:

Not perfect, but I'm running out of time this week. We're hosting a concert for a local chorus tomorrow night. And after spending a week on the Gulf Coast with Habitat for Humanity, I think my wife wants me to work on our house for a bit

[ABHin]

i think in liturgy, we can use green as the main theme, but not always, in the common time.

The common time, is the CHURCH time, the church should plan it's liturgy according to the needs of the church.

BTW, the most important thing for liturgy is LIVE, worship is ALIVE, worshipping a living god with living method, whereas liturgy should be carefully and lively planned