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Old Thursday, January 26th, 2012, 01:15 PM
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No idea where to put this

I have no idea where to put this, so I will go with here.

I just told a client this was not possible, so I hope I was right.

But they want to stream the message from one campus to another with a delayed start (the message starts at 9:00 at one campus and will need to play back at 9:30 at the other campus).

They have cameras, but lack anything else.

They had about $1000 to spend to get it done.
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Old Thursday, January 26th, 2012, 02:13 PM
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Not possible for 1k with any type of video quality.
There are hardware transcoders with buffers/hard drives that could be utilized depending on the quality and throughput of their ISP, but not for 1k.
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Old Thursday, January 26th, 2012, 03:22 PM
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Flash Media Server can utilize a DVR feature that can do this but they'd need some intense bandwidth for decent quality
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Old Thursday, January 26th, 2012, 03:59 PM
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If the sermon length + drive time is < 1/2 hour, they could use sneaker/tire net.
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Old Thursday, January 26th, 2012, 05:20 PM
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Flash Media Server can utilize a DVR feature that can do this but they'd need some intense bandwidth for decent quality
And in particular, outbound bandwidth at the origin, which likely means an expensive line. Then one end has to be able to see the other, which means a static public IP address assignment is involved somewhere, either at one end or at a central super-high-bandwidth VPN gateway. Those costs can add up fast, and they're not one-time costs.

Network latency and congestion can do nasty things to anything streaming, so the best thing to do would be to start the transmission in real-time at the origin and buffer it at the destination.

Even better would be a microwave link, perhaps with network as a failover, but of course that's way past $1K and past easy-to-do.
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Old Friday, January 27th, 2012, 07:43 AM
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This surprises me. I know it depends on location but Verizon fios offers a middle of the road plan of 25 Mbps up and down. Seems like with a 30 minute head start to buffer it would be plenty. I know that you could send the entire video over that in a matter of minutes but this is over-lapping so I know that creates a lot of additional issues. But just what is the issue?
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Old Friday, January 27th, 2012, 12:51 PM
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How about site 2 capture the orginal video file and rebroadcast the file at site 2.
Video lan offers a record feature.
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Old Friday, January 27th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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The issues for me were bandwidth and video quality. Plus the needed hardware (they have no hardware other than the cameras).
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Old Saturday, January 28th, 2012, 04:44 AM
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How far are we talking? Blocks/miles?
If it is close around 6 to 10 miles line of site, microwave would do the trick.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-GHz-Microw...item35b658fa79

My thought would have a dvd recorder at site 2 or other capture recoding device to capture the recording real time. Then you you can play it back 30 minutes later. The microwave transmitter has a the composite and 2 audio jacks.

To capture as a file or to send using the windows live encoder I like the creative video blaster. I only needed 1 and got 5 for the one price. They are cheap on ebay under $20

Option 2 would be a similar set up using outdoor wifi antennas. You would take the high gain 2.4 ghz yagi antennas that are directional (a router with antenna at each site) and make a network bridge. That would should give you enough bandwidth to send the information through.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Poi...31266883491788

Option 3- I know cox cable has a way to connect 2 locations so it would be on the same LAN. The outside internet would be the normal 1.5 mps upload but the point to point would be a dediicated 30 mps. So you could do it by a file transfer on the local lan. It would be just like if you had a building in the campus that had a lan connection. Im not sure what the cost is

Option 4-Contact the cable company-if they have coax service at or near both locations their are "hidden" channels that the cable company uses to send data back and forth. It would be like when there is a city council meeting and they need to send video from that to the head end. They use the same coax line that the customers recieve their home signal on. The cable company might be able to set something up for you on that. All you would need is a Modulator to send/a demoulator to recieve then a capture device to record. Their business services would love to have the business and the church could either rent the equipment or if you know what sub channel they assigned you can find the equipment on ebay for next to nothing. The modulator takes the composite/and 2 audio signals sends it to an rf signal over the coax-the demoulator is the reciever.

Let me know if I can be of any help on this
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Probably 30 miles in two different counties.
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