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Old Monday, August 23rd, 2010, 05:13 AM
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Lyrics overlay

Hi there;

I think it's my first post in here.
I hope somebody can help me with some ideas.

I'm now responsable for the media ministry on our church and I'm thinking on ways to optmize/improve things here.

We have now 3 Canon XL2 and a NewTek VT[5].
I work with VT[5] since it's Amiga's version and i believe it's a great investment.

My concern is about song lyrics.
They want the lyrics on top of the video on the projector but, they don't want it to be recorded on video.

So, for my surprise a computer running powerpoint (slides with green background) and the video output from VT[5] goes to a Roland V-44SW, so the roland mixer can key the powerpoint slides.

It works pretty well but isn't it overkill? Do we really need a US$8000 powerfull mixer just to overlay the lyrics?
Isn't there something cheap?

Thanks in advance;
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Old Monday, August 23rd, 2010, 09:08 AM
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So, to be clear, you need to record the video w/o the lyric, but you need to display the lyrics over the imag video?

If it's a moving background (b/c latency wouldn't matter), you can do that in a computer. Otherwise you'll want to use either a couple of switchers (like you're doing) or a switcher that has an output both before and after a downstream key.

I've heard of keyers (that's all they do), but have never used one and don't know what cost is.

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Old Wednesday, August 25th, 2010, 12:26 PM
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We use the TV-One 1T-C2-250 for Chroma keying. It uses the same TV-One Corio2 chip as their big dollar hardware but at only $450 we could afford it. Very happy with it. (It also does Picture in picture) We run our screens at 1024x768 so we also needed it to scale the s-video feed up and it does a nice job of that too.
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Old Wednesday, August 25th, 2010, 12:58 PM
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With a decklink card and worship software that supports it, (I know SongShow Plus does this), you could put the lyric computer between the output of your switcher and the input to your projector(s).

Something like the second example here.

I don't know what that would cost. But I'd bet it's less than $8,000.
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