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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 04:24 PM
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Does CVLI cover it?

We are having a showing of the movie "Facing the Giants" on Super Bowl Sunday. Our minister of education told me about this and i said that's cool, it will be covered under our CVLI license since it was produced by Provident Films, who is included in the CVLI Producers. He responded that he didn't realize this and had already purchased the license for the public showing. I didn't pursue it at the time, but yesterday he gave me the disk and asked me to check everything out and make sure there would be no issues with our system. After getting the disk, I went online to check out the license program. Based on the FAQ's on the site it seems that this particular film is NOT covered by CVLI (see FAQ).

My question, do you have to contact the producers on each movie to see if it is covered? I thought if the producer was listed on CVLI, you had carte blanche to show their content without having to ask for specific permission. Is this the case or not?
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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 04:37 PM
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But didn't you say he already had the public showing license?
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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 04:51 PM
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Yes, we do have the Public License. But the fact is, if it were left up to me, I wouldn't have gotten the Public Showing License and just have shown the movie assuming I was covered under CVLI.
So, I still have the question, how do you know if all of the CVLI producers movies are included under CVLI?
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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 04:52 PM
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asked me to check everything out and make sure there would be no issues with our system.
Doesn't he just want to see if there is no "black outs" when playing on your system?
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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 04:55 PM
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Doesn't he just want to see if there is no "black outs" when playing on your system?
If you are referring to previous problems we had with our video mixer, that's been remedied with a new Edirol v4 mixer.
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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 07:41 PM
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My question, do you have to contact the producers on each movie to see if it is covered? I thought if the producer was listed on CVLI, you had carte blanche to show their content without having to ask for specific permission. Is this the case or not?
if the producer is listed, you are covered under CVLI TOS.

No doubt about it
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Old Monday, January 15th, 2007, 07:58 PM
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Think I've found the problem ...

Providence Entertainment is covered under CVLI. Provident Entertainment, which produced Facing the Giants, is not on the CVLI Producers List. Hence, the need for a license.
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Old Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, 03:50 AM
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Think I've found the problem ...

Providence Entertainment is covered under CVLI. Provident Entertainment ........... is not
Good catch there. That's where I have been going wrong. I went back and forth between websites and kept reading those as the same company. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, 04:16 AM
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The absolute BEST way I've found to verify CVLI coverage of any given movie is to call them at their toll-free number. They're very helpful. There are often questions, especially since CVLI covers both producers and distributors, sometimes resulting in a question where the producer is not a CVLI participant but the distributor is. "The Passion of the Christ" is a good example of this; it's not covered by CVLI, even though the distributor is a CVLI participant.

So my advice is simple: Make the phone call.

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