building an in ear system

[clmartin22]

We are currently looking at in ear monitors for our church praise band. We need something we can use at the church and on the road. Any thoughts or suggestions? I have seen bands come in with these and have the basic idea of what we need but help from someone who is currently using one would be great.

[cmchamp]

There are a multitude of options, many of which have been covered in previous discussions on the topic.
HearBack, My Mix, Aviom, Rolls, Behringer (coming summer/fall), ProCo, Furman all have something for the "More Me" option.
If you'd explain more of the type of band you have, frequency of travel, etc. we can guide further.
C.

[Frank DeWitt]

Adding to Cory's questions, are you talking IEMs fed from one or two mixes on the board or IEMs with individual mixers for the talent? Also, what is your mixer? What mixer do you take on the road?

Frank

[clmartin22]

hey guys sorry it took me so long to get back on the board.

Here is our basic info
Band
3 vocals with different people singing leads
1 or 2 acoustic guitars
1 or 2 electric guitars
1 electric drum
1 keyboard
1 bass

we travel 5 or 6 times a year, but play every Sunday in church

We would like to have portable mixer, rack, with transmitters, splitters, etc that we could use anywhere

[cmchamp]

Chad
No worries on the get-back time.
Here's a list:
Allen & Heath MixWiz3 12M monitor mixer with built in splitter
Hear Technologies MixBack with HearBack personal mixers.

Coordination of wireless frequencies would be important as well if all wireless were utilized for convenience, so a list of all wireless devices and their operating frequency ranges would be required to make a functional wireless rig.

As for which wireless IEM to use, I'm privy to the MiPro 808TR's myself, and their stock buds aren't terrible either, but for better isolation and comfort, each member investing in their own in-ear would be best.

How many channels do you mix down from the drums, or does the drum module send out a stereo pair?

C.

[Frank DeWitt]

I think that the following people,
1 or 2 acoustic guitars
1 or 2 electric guitars
1 electric drum
1 keyboard
1 bass

Are tied down by there instruments, or the cords, or mics. These people do not need wireless. Wireless adds cost and subtracts reliability.

Frank

[cmchamp]

If the tied down musicians can handle a set and forget mix, then appropriate cables and a headphone amp will do the trick for them.

[Cliff]

Or you could give them small rolls type mixers and hey could mix for themselves and have wired headsets. Or just a "more me" type that they would get a basic mix then just choose the amount of themselves they want in it.

[waynehoskins]

You say you want to travel with this monitor rig anywhere -- how anywhere is "anywhere"? Are you talking local, regional, etc? I'm thinking about the wireless part here. A quick lookup with Sennheiser's Frequency Finder shows many vacant UHF TV channels in your area. (Vacant channel? How strange!) But if you're planning to travel to other markets, the RF landscape will be completely different -- here in Dallas, for example, we don't have vacant channels -- so a coordinated set of wireless IEM systems that work perfectly at home may experience interference here or somewhere else, perhaps to the point of being unusable.

That's a major benefit to going wired: RF isn't a problem. Not that you shouldn't go wireless, but that you shouldn't expect to be able to just pick them up and use them somewhere else. For those, you may have to recoordinate on the road, or in some cases rent market-compatible systems for the gig (which if you have a soundco providing FOH for the gig, they can probably throw in IEM radios as well for not a lot of money).

[Cliff]

I have heard of one guy who went mostly wired, with a couple of wireless for singers who moved around.

For the guitar, he attached the cable for the headphones to the guitar cable. Then it was just one cable, plugged in the guitar and the jack was there for the headphones, or you could take the headphones off before taking off your guitar and hang the headphones (or earbuds) on the guitar on the stand.

[audioa89]

I have a question or two. Sorry to randomly intrude on this thread. But we are looking to get iems as well.

1. For wireless would I need one transmitter and lets say 4 receivers for each person and ill be set. If we only run 1 mix. (obviously headphones) Or do I need multiple transmitters for each person.

2. Wired I have two headphone amps and have used them but we constantly have fuzz/static sound in the headphones. We have moved the amp away from electrical stuff and have ruled out it being a problem with cables. Tried both amps and they have the same problem and have used 2 different mixers and they have the same problem. Any ideas????

[audioa89]

I didn't even realize how old this thread is haha some help would be appreciated though thanks yall