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Old Friday, December 2nd, 2011, 09:06 PM
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A way to lose sales...

The only thing that rigid MAP does is drive the seeker away. If I have to find a dealer to get in good with, then have him "wink, wink", "nod, nod" and whisper me the real price, and never know if his "wink, wink" price might be worse than some other dealer that, if I give him a big bottle of wine, will whisper me a lower price, then I'll look elsewhere, thank you.

There is other technology to do the same thing out there, some of which do not have MAP.

Thanks for letting me know I'm wasting my time with this hardware.
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Old Friday, December 2nd, 2011, 09:08 PM
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Snedecor - $490 might have been the street price last year.
As a dealer for many other products, with possible access to MyMix produces, I can say that there are stringent rules now for keeping contract and pricing policy.
MyMix dictates that $649 is their present MAP (minimum advertised price) with no deviation between internet pricing or printed pricing.
Some contracts are so specific that, in this case, were I a MyMix dealer, and I posted a price lower than $649 here, I could be found in breach of that contract and loose my dealership.
Hope that helps.
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By the way, I wasn't pushing you, a dealer to violate your MAP agreements, I was asking a person who said what price he got, where he got it. He has declined. So be it.
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Old Saturday, December 3rd, 2011, 04:52 AM
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The only thing that rigid MAP does is drive the seeker away. If I have to find a dealer to get in good with, then have him "wink, wink", "nod, nod" and whisper me the real price, and never know if his "wink, wink" price might be worse than some other dealer that, if I give him a big bottle of wine, will whisper me a lower price, then I'll look elsewhere, thank you.

There is other technology to do the same thing out there, some of which do not have MAP.

Thanks for letting me know I'm wasting my time with this hardware.
One of the goals I have seen in enforcing MAP is that it is not unreasonable for manufacturers of certain products to want to avoid dealers taking business from other dealers by advertising products at prices that do not allow the dealer support the manufacturer feels is appropriate. It sometimes makes sense to promote only advertising a price that allows the dealers to provide the support and 'value added' services the manufacturer wants to have associated with that product.

Real world application was a manufacturer that relaxed their dealer and MAP policies only to experience a significant increase in tech support calls to where they had to start adding additional resources. Turns out that apparently dealers that would try to deflect any support and service after the sale on to the manufacturer could advertise lower prices, taking sales from the dealers that tried to provide a higher level of service and support. A dealer not providing support was not a major issue for some products, but it was for ones that often required significant support and assistance. The options were to either a) raise the product price to reflect the additional support required from the manufacturer, b) restrict dealers who could sell products that required significant support to those committed to providing the desired level of support and service (and being serious in cutting off those who don't) or c) reinstate MAP. To resolve the situation and not alienate their dealers that had invested in training and support, they chose a combination of b and c.
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No problems, just educating.
MAP does not keep dealer - official or reseller - from quoting a lower price via telephone, personal message, or email, dependent on the manufacturer's contract language.
I have quoted some products here in the open below MAP for reference.
A year ago, the street price for the MyMix products was around $450ish. Now, the street price might be around $525.
There's another way that manufacturers assure that support is paid for, - a modification of A - which is increase the dealer net price. Sometimes price increases are to recover increased cost of manufacturing or trading costs, but also sometimes additional support required by the manufacturer.
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Old Monday, December 5th, 2011, 11:16 AM
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Just start getting quotes...

cmchamp is correct. Just because the advertised price cannot be lowered, that doesn't mean the quoted price won't be. If you want to know what a MyMix system will cost, spec out what you need and get a couple quotes for it. It doesn't take much time, and that's what I did. It's standard practice in the music industry to find a lower price than retail. As Dave Ramsey will tell you, everything is negotiable (though sometimes you have to work to get the best price). Would you go into a furniture store and pay retail? Never! (Unless it's Value City Furniture). Yet we don't complain because the couch's advertised price is too high. No, we go into the store and haggle and get a deal. Valuable skill to develop. It's the standard way to buy things in Guatemala. I know you're not in Guatemala, but I bring up the point to communicate that the United States common practice is not necessarily the best way of doing things, even though that's what we're used to.

When a MyMix dealer quotes you a lower price, it's because they're taking more of a cut on their profit. Bottom line.
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Old Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012, 06:09 PM
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The only thing that rigid MAP does is drive the seeker away.
Only the lazy ones who end up paying more in the long run anyway.

As others have pointed out, everything is negotiable. And I've looked at some of those "other" systems - good luck with them. You definitely get what you pay for...

I keep coming back to MyMix because it seems to hit that "upper middle" range of features vs. price. It's not ultra-high end, but it's not compromise-riden junk either. Sure, the Roland system (that seemed to be a favorite among tech directors at WFX) might be a little more flexible and if you have a Roland console it can be a slightly better deal - but for our needs it would still be twice the cost!

If your stopping to look at MyMix just because you can't be bothered to get a few quotes, the only one loosing out is your church
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