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You've mentioned several times that there are acoustical issues, are there any plans to try to address that aspect? Not doing so certainly makes it more difficult to try to get a good quality sound system within your budget.
On the audio side, accommodating more inputs, more monitors, etc. is not just a factor of the mixer but also of the infrastructure. I did not see a mix position in the pictures but have you considered things like how you are going to get cabling from the mics and stage to the mix position? The same issues also apply to speakers, etc., is everything going to be portable with cables exposed and such? If the intent is to have a more integrated system then power, cabling paths, mounting considerations, etc. probably become factors in both what is possible and the budget.
In the picture it appears that there are mics out in front of the steps. This puts them well into any coverage from speakers on the stage and when combined with the acoustics of the room, seems to present some real challenges in regards to feedback. Are there indeed mics located out on the floor?
Thanx for your reply.
Yes now we are planning to do some acoustic treatment, and I am choosing the cheapest solution and for now i am planing to make some acoustic panels. The only think that we can do is to buy some materials and improve the acoustics. I vote for some acoustic treatment in the beginning. I want your advices on that. There is a lot of feedback from the edge of the balcony if that can be solved that is our first step ahead. However I am dumb and the only thing I know about that is reading forums and internet articles. I have been to a few sound equipment stores and asked about their advice or suggestions, They said they do not do that. Whenever something like that needs to be don you should invite specialists from Ukraine or ROmania, we do not have this money.
The mixing console will be placed in the middle under the edge of the balcony.
We have a snake in the floor for the cabling and there is audio cabling in the walls.
Cables will be exposed only on the stage.
Do things like this make any difference ?
There is only one mic on the floor. The speaker has a shure headworn microphone and he usulay moves alot.
I have Orderd the zed Mixer, It is on it's way to moldova. Thank you for your advice.
Along with the mixer I also orderre 2 Audix Om2 mics, 2 AKG D 5, 2 Shure SM58 and an ART Equalizer. That is also inspiration from the forums.
Thanks Churchmedia, cmchamp, tedanderson, zactommo, pdc, Jeff92k7, bpalermini, Gracetech, trevorl, rschultz
I'll be the lone deserter here and tell you that I am a big fan of Mackie Boards!
I love Mackie's producs, whether it is speakers or their mixers.
However, I learned on Mackies so Mackies are like my home town so I have some bias towards them.
I hear great things about A & H and a company that I am buying through for our outreach church made the strong suggestion to go A&H and not with Mackie for the same reasons that Champ gave.
However I will say if someone set and A&H and a Mackie infront of me I am certain I would gravitate towards the Mackie.
of course the rest of the smarter guys here will scoff at my ignorance and bias...
they are probably right.
But I say all this to say, stick to what you know and like and in most cases you will be happiest.
Biggest thing....get the Warranty!
Rev. Ryan A. Rose - Pastor of Discipleship & Media
Butterfield Church - ButterfieldAG.com
Hi all, Today the Allen&Heath zed22fx arrived in Moldova, i tested it in the empty church, while the praise and worship band were practicing.
Sound has improved much over the behringer. Sound brighter and it gives and overall sensation of better sound.
The knobs are tight and fell high quality however the faders are a little too loose in my opinion.
I do not like the red plastic on the sides, it feels cheap, in the pictures it looks much better.
It has everything we need and i am really happy with the sound improvement for now. I also got the Audix OM2, AKG D5 and Shure SM58, which improved very much the way songs are sang in our church.
We tried a few other mixers and by now Allen&Heath sounds the best.
I forgot to give my impression on the microphones. My favorite is the AKG D5, it is very bright, i do not have to play too much with the eq, it picks lots of detail and i love that about it, Shure sm58 is probably the flattest, we have a guy in our church that really loves how his voice sounds through it and i am glad for that, easy to eq, no feedback problem with any of them, the Audix, has a very obvious mid tone, whoever is singing in it his voice is easily distinguishable from the entire mix, i do not love that it picks too much noise from the movements of the hands of the one that sings.
The ART EQ is a very handy tool, i am equing the main speakers which are very large and poor quality, i am free now of the noisiest frequencies, not totally, how ever it is possible to listen to the singing through those speakers. I hope i will be able to help the church step by step upgrade their PA and do some acoustic correction. I am new to this, but I love it and I am ready to learn.
Thank you everybody for your help.
I am really happy and thankful.
God Bless You all.
Glad to hear of the improvement in your sound and that you are happy with your purchase.
I know what you mean about the faders feeling too loose. We had the same thought when we first got our Allen and Heath GL2200 nearly 15 years ago. However, after a while, we grew to love them since they stayed very smooth throughout the entire time we owned that console. Every time I touch the Mackie CFX mixer in our youth room, I think that the faders are stuck since they are so stiff. I'm sure you will grow to love them too.
Northside Baptist Church
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