Behringer iNuke series

[cmchamp]

Behringer just released this month their iNuke series. Amps with DSP built in will be available in October.
My NU3000 just arrived. Supposed to be 3000w 4Ω bridged. I'll find out how it performs tonight.
This is a high density, digital amplifier and weighs less than 7lbs.
At first, I thought the shipping box was empty!
I'll let you know after I put it through some moderate paces tonight. I'm not looking for brute power, but overall quality.
We'll be singing Folk Gospel after all.

[prochlea]

I thought this was going to be a joke... something about hooking behringer up to your system will blow it up.

3000W at 7lbs? wow.

[Mustangnaz]

I know Behringer makes a lot of cheap stuff, but this price, weight, and output combo seems too good to be true. Let's hope it's awesome!

[Frank DeWitt]

3000 watts into 4 ohms "revolutionary cool-running High-Density Class-D technology with "near-zero" thermal buildup.

But a look at the quick start manual says it has a fan (why for near zero thermal build up) and it draws 350 watts at 120 volts

350 watts in, 3000 watts out. Apparently it has a average output of less then 350 watts

I thought people who knocked Behringer were just piling on without actual knowing the brand. I bought 5 ADA-8000 preamps a year ago. I have two still working.
Behringe is on my "No buy" list. OK Behringer is my "no buy" list.

Friends don't let friends buy Behringer

Frank

[cmchamp]

Frank
I'll have to say with Behringer's track record, they were my "no buy" list.
For one reason or another, everyone needs a disposable option.
I ran one side of the amp into a pair of SLS LS6593v2's (6Ω load) and no issues. Clean sound, and no noise with the pot fully opened.
I've purchased an XL1600 mixer to temporarily replace an A&H GL2 that needed repair, and a pair of B212D speakers to demo before I possibly turned them over and sold them to a client.
Am I convinced yet? No, but the quality of these three pieces I've obtained are adequate for my mobile - might be using while it's raining - gear.
By the way, it did start raining during our last song tonight. 3rd year in a row it's done that. Glad the SLS's are weatherproof.
I'll be taking the SLS's out again Thursday night powered again by the NU3000. We'll see how they sound with a dulcimer club.

[Frank DeWitt]

Originally Posted by cmchamp

Frank
I'll have to say with Behringer's track record, they were my "no buy" list.
For one reason or another, everyone needs a disposable option.

I understand the concept of disposable. I have bought a cheep tool knowing that I only needed it once and there was a good chance it would work long enough to finish the job. If it didn't, then the job could wait.

My problem with Behringer is that you never know when the will quit. Of the 5 ADA 8000s I bought one was intermittent out of the box.

So, if the event is not one where sound reinforcement is NOT a pivotal part of the event. (a example might be a town fair. If the sound quits for 30 min while you are swapping in another amp then everyone just does something else) Well, OK, someone, not me, might use Behringer.

If you are planning on using it at church, well, think about it. In a large church, no sound system, then what are you going to do. What is going over the sound system? Nice music, yes, and the plan of salvation.

I had a Behringer quit on me during a service on Good Friday. On Saterday I changed it out and asked my self what I would have done if it quit on Sunday morning during our one chance a year to reach some visitors.

So in summery, Perhaps there is some place where a Behringer is good enough.

I would NEVER recommend one for any church unless it is for use at a church picnic to load into the trebushay

BTW If I needed disposable amps I would buy TOA on Ebay. they are great amps, and for some reason they go crazy cheep.

Friends don't let friends buy Behringer.

Frank

[Gracetech]

It's funny but i use to use alot of Behringer gear and now...not so much. I still have 3 Behringer mixers sitting around that i use from time to time and they have been working rock solid for years. I did get a chance recently to try out a few new Behringer products and i think they are trying to make a come back. The quality seemed greatly improved over what i had seen over the past few years. Here is to hoping that Behringer will improve their quality and again produce some nice products.

crt

[cmchamp]

And for those who didn't know:
http://music-group.com/brands.html now owns Behringer, Bugera, Klark Teknik and Midas.

If you need service/support for those, you'll emial: mailto:ServSuppUS@Music-Group.com

C.

[Brad Weber]

Regardless of one's feelings about Behringer, Frank has a good point about the specs. Behringer is certainly not the only company that does such things but they are pretty good at throwing out numbers and statements that look impressive but don't really mean much.

I looked at the information available on Behringer's web site for the iNuke amps and frankly cannot find a single spec that actually means anything. Lots of claims like that the NU3000 supposedly provides 3,000W into 4 Ohms bridged, but nothing about how and under what conditions those claimed power output numbers were measured or what does it do into the most common 8 Ohm per channel application. No specs such as voltage gain, maximum input level, input sensitivity, slew rate, input and output impedance and so on that are required for some calculations and system planning/setup or to make comparisons with other products, information that is in the EP series amp product data available on the web site but is not in the otherwise very similar appearing iNuke product data. It almost seems like they are intentionally avoiding any potential direct comparison.

The point is that I'm very interested to hear your opinion of the iNuke amps, however based on some of the other Behringer amp product data, the numbers that are currently presented for the NU3000 and the other iNuke models are likely not comparable to the numbers other amp manufacturers provide and since the information that would be necessary for comparison is conspicuously absent, this seems intended to create false comparisons. I hope that changes but given the iNuke name and the current absence of technical data, you almost have to consider them as being intended for MI and DJ applications rather than for professional applications.

[cmchamp]

I'll let you know how it stands side by side A/B'd between a bridged Carver PM1400 driving my dual 18" 3600w peak 4Ω subs. Have to wait till the wife get's home.

[cmchamp]

Nope, not gonna happen tonight. Wii baseball tournament going on at the moment.

[Brad Weber]

Originally Posted by cmchamp

Nope, not gonna happen tonight. Wii baseball tournament going on at the moment.

Like that you have your priorities straight!