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Old Tuesday, February 23rd, 2010, 04:46 PM
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for this space, what speakers?

because of the way my questions tend to wander and turn into projects, I hope you won't mind my posting this new question to get very specific feedback on one aspect of my larger project.

the question here is what speakers would work best in my space. the dimensions, materials, and pictures below should give a fairly good idea of what i'm working with.

what general type of speakers would be best
where should they be located
what brand or model of speaker
how would they be wired together
what size and type of amp would power them

basically any info you think would be helpful.

thanks in advance.



the measurements are all on this picture...

http://imgur.com/ZUygW.png

Some Photos ...

looking southwest in overflow
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...dc7f993a76664a

looking south in overflow
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...149088e38a4f44

looking northwest in overflow
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...13bea8c73b9494

looking northeast from southwest corner of sanctuary
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...ef3f4cef5b5315

looking southwest from corner of stage
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...79cafbf0fbb1cc

I forgot to take some with the partition closed.

the materials in the room are mostly cement board, i was surprised to discover. the north (stage), east (overflow) and west walls are all cement board. the north and south walls in the overflow and the south wall of the sanctuary are drywall. the ceiling panels are hard to say, i believe it could be classed as cement board. the floor of the overflow is tile, as is the floor in the sanctuary between pews. the rest of the sanctuary is carpeted.

the front 3-5 pews are rarely used.
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Old Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 01:53 PM
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a few more pics i forgot to post

from opposite corner of stage
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...4cf1fd4c2b44c9

from the bose speaker location
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...6cf73716842914

looking east from pews
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...076d595d709a47

from rear of sanctuary
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...ba40b9dc5a520c

from bose location showing alternate podium placement
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...18dbe96b420de4

from pulpit showing alternate placement
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...4d4baa818d20e3

from left rear, high, showing alternate podium
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...0d06a6e44aa61a
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Old Monday, March 1st, 2010, 12:31 PM
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a few more pics
showing the partition
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...ce00f5a81b479c

showing a typical sunday morning
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...be8ded387a128d

same as above but a bit different angle and a tad blurry
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...8b36e99e942c19

evening service showing the pastor in the pews
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...cfb69eff1e6589

another angle
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...adb0034e25b6cf

and finally...the reason i had quiet mics for so long.
http://www.picstation.net/show-image...d748389c06a8a0


I'd still like your input on what speakers i need for this space, if you have a moment sometime. thanks.
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Old Wednesday, March 3rd, 2010, 08:55 PM
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Well, having increased the volume in the pews to an acceptable level, I'm going to pretty much sideline this project. I will advice the board that this is as good as this system can get without spending $$$.

I may give the speakers a try at one more location, two flown over the first pew on each side. given the bose 802 plots, and the cardioid pattern mic locations (pulpit and lectern), the feedback should be minimal while moving the speakers nearer to the audience. also, tilting the speakers down should help with the flutter echo and resonance.

My thanks to the many on this forum who have helped me with this project. I've learned a lot.

God Bless.
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Old Wednesday, March 3rd, 2010, 11:56 PM
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If you REALLY want to know ... get someone to do an EASE model of your room. You can then basically plug in just about any speaker into the model and you will see how it will perform in your room.

It's not just about getting enough volume but about getting enough articulation so the sound can be understood and not just heard. The cheapest way to do this is to buy what you need to do the job ... and get it right the first time so you don't end up re-buying and re-buying.

Most churches end up buying about 3 times
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